Opened 12 years ago

Closed 12 years ago

Last modified 11 years ago

#421 closed defect (fixed)

Sugar on a Stick not booting into Sugar

Reported by: CarolineM Owned by: marcopg
Priority: Unspecified by Maintainer Milestone: Unspecified
Component: Sugar on a Stick (SoaS) Version: Unspecified
Severity: Blocker Keywords:
Cc: gregdek, sdziallas, sascha_silbe Distribution/OS: Unspecified
Bug Status: Unconfirmed

Description

http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/1/Soas-200902231225.iso

Created on windows with Fedora usb creator.

Boots through Fedora 10 starup then.

WARNING: Cannot find root file system

Create symlink /dev/root and then exist this shell to continue the boot sequence.

bash: no job control in this shell

Attachments (1)

Bug421.enex (647.8 KB) - added by CarolineM 12 years ago.
Results when I take out and put in the USB stick after initial failure

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Change History (17)

comment:1 Changed 12 years ago by tvoverbeek

  • Component changed from sugar to SoaS
  • Distribution/OS changed from Unspecified to SoaS

Have seen the same thing on my own laptop (Dell Precision M60).
What helps for me is to remove the usb stick and then insert it again.
Wait for all the messages (identifying the stick and recognizing
the device, /dev/sdb in my case).
Then hit return so you get the shell prompt.
Exit the shell (e.g. using Control-D).
For me boot continues and the sugar UI appears.

My guess is that the stick is not properly dismounted
at shutdown due to the computer shutting down too fast
and removing power to the USB stick before it is finished
flushing the data.

I used the same stick on other laptops which did not show
this behavior.

comment:2 Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

  • Resolution set to notsugar
  • Status changed from new to closed

This problem occurs when you create the stick on windows, then remove the stick after flashing without ejecting it first from windows.

comment:3 Changed 12 years ago by wadeb

I added a note about this to the Windows Installation instructions.

comment:4 Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

  • Resolution notsugar deleted
  • Severity changed from Blocker to Major
  • Status changed from closed to reopened

This happened to me today with a USB stick that had been working through at least 2 reboots then I took it into the field and it gave me this error.

comment:5 Changed 12 years ago by tomeu

  • Cc gregdek sdziallas added

Any Fedora guy could tell me what's the chance of getting this issue fixed by reproducing with a true fedora live image and filing a bug in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ ?

comment:6 Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

  • Severity changed from Major to Blocker

I am still having this problem on the 2/28 snapshot. Even being very careful to always properly eject the USB I can't create a working stick.

Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

Results when I take out and put in the USB stick after initial failure

comment:7 Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

I am seeing this intermittantly on my laptop. Tonight i have a stick that does not boot my laptop but does boot a desktop.

Do we know what the root cause of this problem might be?

comment:8 Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

Today I saw this when I created a SoaS1 -3/21 stick.
First time I formated with FAT32
Error.

I reformatted with FAT and it worked.

However, as this problem has been so internment for me I am not at all sure the FAT32/FAT was the difference.

comment:9 Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

I had this problem today with a stick that was formatted FAT

comment:10 Changed 12 years ago by sascha_silbe

  • Cc sascha_silbe added

comment:11 follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

More interesting data.

I made a stick with the windows fedora USB Creator.
Then I made another one.
The second one failed.
Then I reformatted it FAT and it still failed
Then I reformatted in FAT and restarted the USB Creator and had success.

comment:12 in reply to: ↑ 11 ; follow-up: Changed 12 years ago by satellit

Replying to CarolineM:

More interesting data.

I made a stick with the windows fedora USB Creator.
Then I made another one.
The second one failed.
Then I reformatted it FAT and it still failed
Then I reformatted in FAT and restarted the USB Creator and had success.

I find liveusb-creator in Fedora 11b needs to be closed and restarted EACH time it is used or it may fail

comment:13 in reply to: ↑ 12 Changed 12 years ago by tomeu

Replying to satellit:

Replying to CarolineM:

I find liveusb-creator in Fedora 11b needs to be closed and restarted EACH time it is used or it may fail

Can you report it in https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/ and link it form this ticket? You will need to register there in order to submit a ticket.

Thanks!

comment:14 Changed 12 years ago by CarolineM

  • Resolution set to fixed
  • Status changed from reopened to closed

I haven't seen this issue in a while so I'm going to close for now.

comment:15 Changed 12 years ago by bernie

Some comments from #fedora-devel:

(16:32:51) bernie: has anyone tried booting live fedora usb sticks on macbooks recently?
(16:33:33) wwoods: bernie: that ain't gonna work.
(16:33:54) jeremy: bernie: macbooks don't boot from USB unless the USB stick is set up as EFI bootable. and then you're in a whole other world of pain
(16:34:05) clumens: YOU ARE ENTERING A WORLD OF PAIN.
(16:34:09) wwoods: thanks for that, apple
(16:34:42) bernie: wwoods, jeremy: oh, I see
(16:34:45) skvidal: wwoods: didn't you get the pointy stick with your apple?
(16:34:56) skvidal: wwoods: the one they ship w/the laptops so you can jab yourself in the eye
(16:37:04) bernie: wwoods: there's no easy way to build a bootable EFI USB stick with Fedora on it?
(16:37:15) wwoods: bernie: none that I know of
(16:37:24) wwoods: there might be a *hard* way
(16:37:33) bernie: not even with bootcamp?
(16:37:52) jeremy: livecd-iso-to-disk has a --mactel/--efi switch which works on many. but then you get into efi + modesetting failures in a lot of cases
(16:37:57) bernie: it makes XP boot, doesn't it mean that it fakes a PC BIOS?
(16:38:05) jeremy: bernie: all that bootcamp does is partitioning
(16:38:26) jeremy: bernie: when bootcamp was originally released, they also included a firmware update which does a fake bios. that works for cd booting, but their bios doesn't support usb booting
(16:38:42) mjg59: And also doesn't have that support on the Xserve
(16:38:49) bernie: jeremy: I see... apple is great
(16:39:02) mjg59: They implmented what they needed
(16:39:14) skvidal: bernie: keep drinking that kool-aid :)
(16:39:22) pjones: well, a CSM. which isn't necessarily a "fake" bios, but still.

comment:16 Changed 11 years ago by sascha_silbe

  • Distribution/OS changed from SoaS to Unspecified

Bulk change distribution=SoaS -> component=SoaS

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