now i can't login... it starts and then it takes me back to the grub prompt sorry not grub... but the user login screen GDM JZA if it is a Virtual Appliance just reload the original... which VM are you using again? F13-Marbelle? in Virtualbox? or VMPlayer? Vbox Mago-lassi you should not have broken it with that command what are the dropdown options on the bottom bar ? sugar/or what (after you click user name but before password) dont have any options, hold on gdm should show installed desktop managers on bar after clicking user name http://imagebin.org/163448 I just have Language / Keyboard and just the current options ok you are not using VM original user name then....was it live system user? sugar was the user (sugaruser password) sorry early here ok here is what I did: I wget this http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS-2-disk1.vmdk I had issues with the IDE 1 cuz my virtualbox complain, so I edit the ovf I delete the the IDE 1 (might have lost the user there). It started and got a fedora installation asking me for a user. I set up the user "Alex" and got in Sugar with no issue. Did a yum groupinstall sugar-desktop and restarted and I got this issue http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#All_Prebuilt_VirtualBox_Appliances lists 2 files to download and import into virtualbox..... I have never done it your method. your password for alex will not work? satellit_: it did work the first time satellit_: it lets me login and sugar starts... sorry no ideas here. download the 2 files and import them and it will work. sugar (sugaruser) I get a clock timer, and then it kicks me out is really a sugar issue not a user management issue I dont get an "invalid password" can you log in as root (sugarroot)? I ctrl-alt-2 and did a login in Bash and got in with no problem the ovf edit may have messed up your system startx in bash? from init 3 easiest is to just import the 2 files: http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/Fedora-13-i686-Live-SoaS-sugaruser.vmdk http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/Fedora-13-i686-Live-SoaS-sugaruser.ovf again the ovf issue would have not started the first time I think http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#SoaS_v3_Mirabelle whats the difference between 'live' and 'sugaruser' I am worried about the firstboot you did which changed/added user sugar is the default account with password sugaruser in the VM appliance as set up satellit_: what is the difference bewtee SoaS-live.vmdk and SoaS-sugaruser.vmdk? * rurufufuss (~rurufufus@115-64-27-246.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #sugar oops you are on F14 and I gave you f13 sorry right http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS-2.ovf http://download.sugarlabs.org/images/VirtualBox/Fedora-14-i686-Live-SoaS-2-disk1.vmdk need both I had both and virtualbox complain that it doesnt support more than 1 IDE imported them into Virtualbox 4 use import not add as a HD to a new VM I did that thats why I needed to edit the ovf otherwise I wouldnt have touch it to begin with why? it should just go to sugar and start on name_____ because I got an error and it couldnt import it VirtualBox4 (recent version)? 3,1 3.1.2r56127 that may be the problem..... can you upgrade not at 6am I am shutting down http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html g' night?