removable device appears without any icon on it

[tomeu]

sugar tries to use 'drive-harddisk' and 'drive' but no icon with those names are in sugar-artwork

[tomeu]

Added some dummy icons that currently are the same as the usb stick icon. Would be nice to have proper icons for it.

 http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugar-artwork/repos/mainline/commits/9e9efd5a5c

Eben, could you look at it?

[tomeu]

Or Gary, as he has started doing some awesome icons already ;)

[garycmartin]

Replying to tomeu:

Or Gary, as he has started doing some awesome icons already ;)

Sure, I'll take a shot if Eben's time is thin :-) Any description of what's different between a drive-harddisk and drive? Is drive CD, or other disk based media? I'll get on with drive-harddisk for now.

[erikos]

So GNOME has these three:

 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome-drive-harddisk.svg

 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome-drive-removable-media.svg

 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gnome-drive-optical.svg

In the Fedora Theme there are some more differentiations - for example there is a drive-harddisk-usb with a usb-icon badge. Not sure how detailed we need to be here.

[garycmartin]

Here's an image for drive-harddisk

[garycmartin]

I'll take a stab at an image for 'drive' if someone can point me in the right direction. It's a bit of a generic concept and we already have icons for removable media disks/cds (media-disk.svg). Does any one have an example device that would want to be shown as a 'drive' icon, and is not a USB stick, hard-disk, or removable disk media?

[tomeu]

Replying to garycmartin:

I'll take a stab at an image for 'drive' if someone can point me in the right direction. It's a bit of a generic concept and we already have icons for removable media disks/cds (media-disk.svg). Does any one have an example device that would want to be shown as a 'drive' icon, and is not a USB stick, hard-disk, or removable disk media?

Unfortunately not. This icon will be displayed when we fail to better identify the device, so something close to what is most often used may be the best. So maybe just copy the usb stick?

I think most of our users won't know how a conventional hard disk looks.

[garycmartin]

Sounds reasonable, a new image can always be added in the future when we know what it's common use is – I did have a scrounge about for ideas, but best I could get to was really just an elongated rectangle with a couple of feet bumps, some parallel lines on the front and a dot for a led – not inspiring.

[eben]

Gary beat me to it, but I've had this icon floating around for quite a while. I'm sorry I didn't get the chance to attach it sooner. It's similar in concept, but a bit simpler in keeping with Sugar's reductionist aesthetic.

[tomeu]

I'm a bit unsure of this, I don't think that a representation of the internals of a hard drive is going to help many Sugar users. I'm thinking that we may stay with the usb stick as a default because in some cases we'll be failing to recognize a usb stick as such. Do people agree?

[garycmartin]

Replying to tomeu:

I'm a bit unsure of this, I don't think that a representation of the internals of a hard drive is going to help many Sugar users. I'm thinking that we may stay with the usb stick as a default because in some cases we'll be failing to recognize a usb stick as such. Do people agree?

Tomeu, hey you were the one that wanted a 'proper' HD icon for it! :-b But FWIW I don't have a strong opinion if there a going to be failed usb stick detection cases getting shown with the wrong icon – though of course I do love my little HD icon lots ;-)

[tomeu]

Replying to garycmartin:

Replying to tomeu:

I'm a bit unsure of this, I don't think that a representation of the internals of a hard drive is going to help many Sugar users. I'm thinking that we may stay with the usb stick as a default because in some cases we'll be failing to recognize a usb stick as such. Do people agree?

Tomeu, hey you were the one that wanted a 'proper' HD icon for it! :-b But FWIW I don't have a strong opinion if there a going to be failed usb stick detection cases getting shown with the wrong icon – though of course I do love my little HD icon lots ;-)

Yeah, it's just that I have noticed that in all cases when it tried to use the hard disk icon, it was actually a pen drive. That's whay I'm leaning now towards leaving it as-is, sorry for the confusion and wasted work :(

[alsroot]

After attaching usb/dvd, I got

WARNING root: No icon with the name media was found in the theme.

So, looks like we don't have media.svg in sugar-artwork

[alsroot]

tomeu │ alsroot: guess so, I think we should use the usb stick one in these cases
tomeu │ alsroot: because most of the time will be those
tomeu │ alsroot: and also because we haven't been able to find a meaningful representation of an external hard disk

[benzea]

I am closing this now (please reopen or open a new bug if anyone thinks this should be better).

I have done two changes:

• Use a CD-ROM icon for media-optical (which we already had in media-disk.svg)
• Use the usb-key icon for media.svg (ie. as a fallback if no other icon has been found)